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	<title>Comments on: Do We Actually Have The Science And Technology To Create A World Where We Don&#8217;t Need Money?</title>
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		<title>By: I'm Gumby Damn It!</title>
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		<dc:creator>I'm Gumby Damn It!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:::First Vision:::
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WHAT IF…
We remove the child labor laws…
And without exploiting the young
Put them to work to get all labor done
Work them till 21,
To retire and have fun
Would if be so cruel? 
To school societies tools
And allow the youthful to rule
Imagine if you will…
The children pay the bill
They do their time, and find 
Youth not wasted on the young
Grown… 
And their life long vacations begun!
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:::Second Vision::::
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If We Were All Paid According to Our Actions
with no other way to make adds or subtractions 
to our funds 
the world would run 
alot nicer ...
::: if you ask me :::
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you, would be paid for every &quot;i love you&quot; say 
the state of Love 
in the country of Hug 
would see to it 
i would be rich
so would you
you get it?
we are slaves 
to a Capitalist nation
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:::Third Vision:::
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everyone has a match that is better than any other
but to find that match 
takes tons of energy 
which people simply do not have stored up
they waste their personal power
on other stuff
and they end up with relation-shits
...
think of it this way
if everyone in the world
spent one year pouring all the needed data
about each person into a super computer
and allowed matches to be made
(not like a freakin dating service level)
we all could find great mates friends and tribes
I personally think the world would be redeployed
energy &quot;wise&quot;
IF &quot;A I&quot; every &quot;got control&quot; of humans
the machines IF they cared about our well being
would do something like this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:::First Vision:::<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
WHAT IF…<br />
We remove the child labor laws…<br />
And without exploiting the young<br />
Put them to work to get all labor done<br />
Work them till 21,<br />
To retire and have fun<br />
Would if be so cruel?<br />
To school societies tools<br />
And allow the youthful to rule<br />
Imagine if you will…<br />
The children pay the bill<br />
They do their time, and find<br />
Youth not wasted on the young<br />
Grown…<br />
And their life long vacations begun!<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
:::Second Vision::::<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
If We Were All Paid According to Our Actions<br />
with no other way to make adds or subtractions<br />
to our funds<br />
the world would run<br />
alot nicer &#8230;<br />
::: if you ask me :::<br />
~~~~~<br />
you, would be paid for every &#8220;i love you&#8221; say<br />
the state of Love<br />
in the country of Hug<br />
would see to it<br />
i would be rich<br />
so would you<br />
you get it?<br />
we are slaves<br />
to a Capitalist nation<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
:::Third Vision:::<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
everyone has a match that is better than any other<br />
but to find that match<br />
takes tons of energy<br />
which people simply do not have stored up<br />
they waste their personal power<br />
on other stuff<br />
and they end up with relation-shits<br />
&#8230;<br />
think of it this way<br />
if everyone in the world<br />
spent one year pouring all the needed data<br />
about each person into a super computer<br />
and allowed matches to be made<br />
(not like a freakin dating service level)<br />
we all could find great mates friends and tribes<br />
I personally think the world would be redeployed<br />
energy &#8220;wise&#8221;<br />
IF &#8220;A I&#8221; every &#8220;got control&#8221; of humans<br />
the machines IF they cared about our well being<br />
would do something like this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bookworm</title>
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		<dc:creator>bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we could create a world where money isn&#039;t crucial... or necessary..
But then, they would be other ways to measure a human, or a fellow beings success... we are judgmental and social creatures.... we can never stop networking, and communicating(comparing) with our fellow comrades and neighbors...
Man has come a long way since, the time before money and trade(commerce)... but there are some things we do need in life, for instance community-like lives, and inter-relating works and neighborhood like stuff... which actually makes days much more interesting than before... at the same time, we do need order, to ensure peace and we do ned leaders to ensure balance... not everyone enjoy being leaders, and not everyone can be led, thus even then we were separated... despite the existence of money or otherwise...
If everyone were born with the same mind and characters, your vision might be... a little more achievable... alas, one human is as different as the sky and land from the other... 
Cheers!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we could create a world where money isn&#8217;t crucial&#8230; or necessary..<br />
But then, they would be other ways to measure a human, or a fellow beings success&#8230; we are judgmental and social creatures&#8230;. we can never stop networking, and communicating(comparing) with our fellow comrades and neighbors&#8230;<br />
Man has come a long way since, the time before money and trade(commerce)&#8230; but there are some things we do need in life, for instance community-like lives, and inter-relating works and neighborhood like stuff&#8230; which actually makes days much more interesting than before&#8230; at the same time, we do need order, to ensure peace and we do ned leaders to ensure balance&#8230; not everyone enjoy being leaders, and not everyone can be led, thus even then we were separated&#8230; despite the existence of money or otherwise&#8230;<br />
If everyone were born with the same mind and characters, your vision might be&#8230; a little more achievable&#8230; alas, one human is as different as the sky and land from the other&#8230;<br />
Cheers!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Nothing to Know or Teach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nothing to Know or Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we loose the concept of religion and god then we will have it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we loose the concept of religion and god then we will have it</p>
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		<title>By: ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t take science and technology, it takes sanity, love and goodwill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t take science and technology, it takes sanity, love and goodwill.</p>
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		<title>By: Illlllll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Illlllll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money is simply a medium of exchange. It&#039;s nothing more than a type of language for communicating value. You could say it&#039;s &quot;out of thin air&quot; but only to the extent that words are; it&#039;s true only in a particularly stupid sort of way.
What causes money to operate in this certain way is the existence of a market of private properties. Private property creates value by limiting who can control it, producing an opening for a desire of control in other people while a market is a series of rules which produce the types of values that a culture or government intends to produce. Money can be seen as a peculiar rule in this sense; it regulates interactions but only by insisting that they be mediated while not saying by what they should be mediated. In other words, I don&#039;t just give you my turkeys for your chickens but I give you pieces of paper or coins or checks or credit cards for your turkeys which you give back to me for my chickens. Money is so powerful in this sense that even if I went back to just giving you turkeys, the turkeys would become the medium of exchange and in a very real way, &quot;Money&quot;.
This preface is just to point out what it is you&#039;re proposing we get rid of. While there are other ways of regulating markets and organizing societies, it is the underlying logic of the society which causes the problems you&#039;re attempting to address, not some symptom like money itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money is simply a medium of exchange. It&#8217;s nothing more than a type of language for communicating value. You could say it&#8217;s &#8220;out of thin air&#8221; but only to the extent that words are; it&#8217;s true only in a particularly stupid sort of way.<br />
What causes money to operate in this certain way is the existence of a market of private properties. Private property creates value by limiting who can control it, producing an opening for a desire of control in other people while a market is a series of rules which produce the types of values that a culture or government intends to produce. Money can be seen as a peculiar rule in this sense; it regulates interactions but only by insisting that they be mediated while not saying by what they should be mediated. In other words, I don&#8217;t just give you my turkeys for your chickens but I give you pieces of paper or coins or checks or credit cards for your turkeys which you give back to me for my chickens. Money is so powerful in this sense that even if I went back to just giving you turkeys, the turkeys would become the medium of exchange and in a very real way, &#8220;Money&#8221;.<br />
This preface is just to point out what it is you&#8217;re proposing we get rid of. While there are other ways of regulating markets and organizing societies, it is the underlying logic of the society which causes the problems you&#8217;re attempting to address, not some symptom like money itself.</p>
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